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Chad right on T.O.?

Posted by hobsonschoice1 on July 24, 2010 – 7:19 am

With our fellow newshound Chad Ochocinco reporting that Terrell Owens is joining him, you have to wonder about smoke and you have to wonder about fire.

As the good folks at ProFootballTalk.com have pointed out, The Ocho can get a little carried away on Twitter. What we do know is that there is no deal. But we also know there has been a lot of smoke in the last 18 hours and where there’s smoke…

What seems to be going on is that Owens and agent Drew Rosenhaus are going into overdrive to get Owens into a training camp by the time it starts. The Bengals have a good relationship with Rosenhaus and they, no doubt, are being polite and taking each other’s calls about a number of issues. After the Bengals signed Antonio Bryant in March, the club moved on but never ruled out Owens and Rosenhaus thanked the Bengals but never ruled them out, either. Both said it was unlikely.

Now with the camps right around the corner, it seems as if taking a phone call is as good as a contract. But it’s not. Not yet. Will it? As we said earlier, things change. The guess here is that if it happens, it is going to be before the Bengals report to Georgetown on Wednesday.

The evidence still suggests more smoke than fire.  While Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis, like any NFL head man, isn’t beyond throwing up some deceptive flares, he was asked this week point blank about T.O. and he said he’s not looking to add at wide receiver.

Privately, the Bengals are saying they’re not looking to do it. They would prefer to give the shots to kids like Jerome Simpson and Dez Briscoe and not turn to a 36-year-old when they have a 32-year-old receiver on the other side.

And while the Bengals coaches have been very impressed with Owens on film last year with the Bills and believe he can still run, he doesn’t provide the greatest fit for a roster that is looking for at least a punt returner and maybe more from its wide receivers on special teams. But then again, cornerback Adam Jones could be the punt returner if the Bengals think they can count on him.

And, hey, special teams is special teams. In Owens, you’re talking about a guy that has scored more touchdowns than anyone playing.

Could the Bengals sign him? Could they change their minds?

Sure. Go back to 2008 when they had no plans in July to re-sign Chris Henry in August. They didn’t know that Chad Ochocinco and Andre Caldwell would get hurt in a preseason game and be sidelined for a few weeks. Or that T.J. Houshmandzadeh wouldn’t practice all camp with a hamstring problem. And it turned out that Simpson was no match for a quick transition from Division II.

So, yeah, it could change.

Maybe they never thought Owens would still be sitting there.

We know that T.O. didn’t burn any bridges when the Bengals opted for Bryant. Word was his heart was set on joining a big-time quarterback and his good friend Ocho and when it didn’t happen he was quite emotional. But he sent a very classy tweet thanking everyone in the organization, starting from the top with Bengals president Mike Brown.

Who knows?

It could also not change.

We will soon know. If both parties want to do it, they’ll want to reserve a bed at Georgetown for him.


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22 Responses to “Chad right on T.O.?”

  1. By theredbengal on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    It is just talk…right now. But fun talk! Personally, I’d quickly gobble up an orange home alternate Owens jersey as soon as they reached the pro shop.

    I know Owens is a controversial figure, but I can’t see anything or anyone poisoning this locker room. Factoring in all the things this team went through last year, and the amount of solid leaders (Dhani, Whit, Bobbie, Carson, Crocker, Marvin, Zim) that are here, I say why not? Especially if Matt Jones doesn’t have it, or Bryant’s knee is still an issue. Adding a Hall of Fame talent, albeit 36/37 year old talent, would be +

    WHO DEY!

  2. By kingbengal on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    If the Bengals sign T.O they would be in contention to WIN it ALL,& 2 B honest they really do not need T.O for that. But CHEAP MIKE BROWN would sure SELL OUT every game for two years IF he get a 2 year deal.

  3. By 2ndboot on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    I can see it now. The first time TO blows a route call and isn’t where the ball is the first words out of his mouth..? “It wasn’t me..blame it on that old QB.”. and five minutes after that Marvin would have him changing into street clothes on his way out of PBS.

  4. By 2ndboot on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    It’s one thing to give a young guy a second chance to straighten his life out in stripes, but Owens has been handed more chances than most 5 time losers on death row and still plays the fool. Philly dumped him off to Dallas where he had every chance in the world to shine, but they grew sick of his games so off he went to Buffalo for a one year stint and notice he didn’t sign an extension and from everything I know he was not offered one. Now here it is almost opening of training camp and he still hasn’t attracted much other than teams on the bubble. I really wouldn’t be surprised if his next pay check had a Rooney on the endorsement line though, but in terms of the big bucks and the Bengals? I just think neither Mikey nor Marvin wants his headache show all season after every game…or before games for that matter and honestly Chad doesn’t need the added distraction even though he would tell us all differently.

  5. By jmac6996 on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    Make for good reading and what if’s. I dont see the need for T.O. The biggest issue for the Bengals will be avoiding injuries to key players. Especially at the cornerback, quarterback and wideout positions.

  6. By bengalsfanatic9 on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    According to the Ocho, we just signed TO!!!! I’m all for it–those two will have secondaries scrambling. I know we’re very deep at WR, and Marvin has to cut a few–say bye bye to Simpson and say hello to TO!

  7. By whodey14823 on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    We do have a lot of receivers on the roster, but when you look at their current ability compared to T.O., it just doesn’t stack up. T.O. would do well as a number 3 option behind Ocho and Bryant. Any team would be hard pressed to find 3 corners or safties to cover them. Especially with the height advantage of Owens and Bryant.
    It is a risk, but one that the WhoDey nation needs!! We were happy to make the playoffs last year, but twice in the last 20 is not enough. Let’s add an experienced playmaker and score some more points this year and not have to rely on the defense. The last time we made the playoffs our defense was very good as well and then collapsed the following year. Let’s not let that happen again!
    Who Dey!!

  8. By bengalsluvr on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    I say look at how the Bengals have had success by signing troubled or high risk players and how they have managed to turn them in a quality player not only on the field but off the field. Then if they can get T.O. with a good 1 or 2 year contract that both sides can accept then WELCOME T.O. to the JUNGLE!!!

  9. By whodeynation on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    Personally I think AB’s knee is a liability. Matt Jones is inconsistant at best and the pace of an NFL game is obviously not something that Simpson will every get. I would cut Simpson, sign T.O. and see what happens with Matt Jones in the preseason. What happens if AB’s knee is shot and maybe Chad gets hurt or the double team all season. T.O could be a great vet presence at that point… T.O. will also have something to prove from not being picked up…. thats that chip on the shoulder we like to see in Ocho.

  10. By whodey0985 on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    If you can get T.O. for cheap, which I think he would sacrafice the money to play in cincy as it sounds, then it would be a no brainer. Not only can he play, but imagine the media surrounding the team, the revenue that can be brought in. Then the super talent we can have going 4 wide with a great rookie running back, we can have an offense as explosive as it was back five years ago.

    It’s easy, you know that some where this season a receiver will get hurt, we have run into this problem a few years now in a row. We can stop that problem now as it only makes sense to be loaded at he receiver spot with a great qb like palmer.

    If you sign TO to a almost league minimum deal we will get that money back in no time with jersey sales, media and sell outs every sunday. Everyone would want to be apart of the TO Ocho freak show, in both good and bad ways!

  11. By slykktee on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    I reported this back when he visited. the bengals NEED T.O for a multitude of reasons, with #1 being to win the Superbowl. There is absolutely no way to cover Ocho, & T.O that would take 4 DBs, Counting 4 DL and 1LB, the slot and TE position player will be a fantasy warrior. If that talent is Bryant and Gresham, the 10 Bengals will be the Greatest Show on Grass. This will sell tickets, but with Zim’s D we will when a Championship. This team will be as good as the 94 49ers {see the results}.

    – Kingbengal – Don’t believe the hype! Go out and research team salaries for ’09 The Bengals player payroll was more that 1/2 of the NFL! including teams like Dallas, 49ers, Steelers, etc…

    Mike Brown does his job and does it well. Just because he refuses to pay {self proclaimed superstar} 1 player 100mill, doesn’t mean he is not willing to pay 4 {great starters} players 25mill. ask the Redskins how that turned out for them!!!

    Ask yourself, If you go shopping, which would you buy; 1 {diamond “studded”} 24k plated watch for 50,000. or 4 {diamond “crusted”} 24k solid watches for 50, 000… If you pick the 1 watch then I understand you comment, you are not a wise person because you look for the showy display rather than the entire superlative of the piece.

  12. By bengaloid on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    I say why not? If Owens isn’t asking for the farm then sign him. He would certainly be more productive than Coles was last year.

  13. By superbengalfan on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    I was excited at first at the prospect of Carson working with T.O. and that if Carson wanted him to be added to the roster, then what a great prospect. My excitement however has given way to concern, concern that Bryant’s knee isn’t allowing him to play at a high level or be ready for a full season. The concern is if this is the case that T.O. isn’t like adding a luxury item, but filling a need. The problem also being we already spent our money on Bryant and if we aren’t able to get T.O. that we are in effect without a # 2 receiver. It will not be a good sign if Bryant needs to rest at the start of camp.

  14. By coachwine on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    Good fit or not, how often do the Bengals have to be well into the upper half in team salary before people stop calling Mike Brown cheap? Prudent and unyielding to principle doesn’t make someone cheap, it just means they are still in business.

    If Matt Jones is not going to be one of the 6 and T.O. could be–go for it!

  15. By hobsonschoice1 on Jul 24, 2010 | Reply

    Kind of funny how the Rams suddenly emerged in this thing after a bunch of stories connecting T.O. to the Bengals. If the Bengals do decide to go through with it and make him an offer, and that’s still an if, I don’t see them getting into a bidding war with anybody else.

  16. By cincinnasti35 on Jul 25, 2010 | Reply

    Im not sure there will be a bidding war at all with the Rams and the Bengals. T.O. is doing the right things by keeping his options open to obviously put the pressure on the Bengals to act quickly. In my opinion, T.O. doesn’t want to play for the Rams, he wants to be a Bengal and he would take less money to play for the Bengals if their offer wasn’t as aggressive as the Rams offer. That said, adding T.O. to the Bengals would help them tremendously down the field. It would alleviate a lot of the pressure Chad demands and ultimately increase their passing attack. I understand Chad is getting older and T.O. is 36, but Carson’s biological clock is ticking, and seriously entertaining the idea of waiting on Jerome and other receiving prospects is a joke. They know what they have, its a matter of loyalty and cutting ties. Cut ties and put the best team out on the field to contend in a tough AFC North.

    SIGN T.O.!!!!!

  17. By 2ndboot on Jul 25, 2010 | Reply

    Well, well, well.. now isn’t this a fine kettle of fish? And fine fish at that at WR options.. The up and comers have to be REALLY looking over their shoulders every day and dream about losing out to a guy old enough to be their long lost uncle.
    With the option of 11 or maybe even 12 WR’s it’s going to be painfully obvious not all are going to stay so they have to look at who has shown the most value and one they have to find room for is Quan Cosby, obviously Shipley, Caldwell, ..that’s 1/2 the WR core right there leaving who? If they sign TO and Bryants knee is still workable and they keep him that wraps it up right there unless they keep one other and go with 7 because any fool knows Ocho isn’t going anywhere.
    One thing the Bengals are teaching me is to never try to predict anything when it comes to the Bengals.

  18. By 2ndboot on Jul 25, 2010 | Reply

    You have to believe other teams are going to be lining up to pick off the practice squad players….

  19. By cincybengalschick80 on Jul 25, 2010 | Reply

    All I know is me and a couple friends of mine were not going to buy season tickets this year but if the bengals sign T.O It would be the best team every, could you imagine Chad ochocinco, packman jones and T.O on the same team. Can you say superbowl much. Im buying season tickets the day they sign T.O Don’t understand what the bengals are waiting for. They have to play the jets again this year and revis can shutdown anyone but he cant stop ochocinco and T.O at the same time. This is a superbowl team if the bengals get T.O

  20. By reguynnc23 on Jul 25, 2010 | Reply

    This sounds like a great situation to me. If the O-line can give Carson some time the addition of T.O. would be HUGE. The defense will be good again this year, last season was not ’05, we have a good DC and the defense was really good – not lucky decent.
    A top 12 offense will take Cincinnati a long way with the stingy defense.

  21. By 34inXXIII on Jul 26, 2010 | Reply

    Boom or bust. Risk versus reward. Advantages and disadvantages. As Hobson pointed out, I can certainly understand the argument in favor of signing TO as well as the argument against it. I’ve been pretty torn on the issue myself. My common theme has been that pairing TO & Ocho on the same field – and, therefore, the same locker room – would either produce a highly prolific passing attack or one of the epic debacles of all time. I’m not sure there’s much middle ground.

    I’m going to resist the hyperbole of comparing Owens to a ’5 time loser on death row’ because I prefer to relate him to Jeff George. While George didn’t produce throughout his career to the level Owens has, there was no denying his talent. It was commonly believed that his million dollar arm was sabotaged by his ten cent brain. However, the well-traveled signal caller generally seemed to do well in his first year anywhere. The same could be said for TO, which is why a part of me believes this could work.

    As for the Rams, clearly there’s no reason to get into a bidding war with anyone at this point. I have a hard time believing that TO will be content with his legacy ending with a question mark as a highly athletic nomad wandering from one NFL also-ran to another. He’s an exclamation mark kind of guy, which indicates he’s going to be more apt to sign with a contender this season following a little image maintenance in Buffalo last year. So, will he sacrifice the money for a chance to get those exclamation points?

    On a side note, it would definitely be interesting to see a high profile free agent – albeit one with limited options – take less money to play in Cincinnati. It would be yet another indication of the changing direction of this franchise and, hopefully, a sign of things to come in the future.

  22. By dhathaway99 on Jul 26, 2010 | Reply

    If TO is signed, the next announcement will be Bryant on the PUP list and gone for the first 6 games. No way do they sign Owens unless Bryant is out.

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