Plenty of info on Pryor

Posted by hobsonschoice1 on August 19, 2011 – 9:48 pm

When it comes to the Bengals and Terrelle Pryor and Monday’s supplemental draft, there is no question they’ll be fully informed on the former Ohio State quarterback.

It’s believed the Bengals are scouting Pryor’s workout this weekend but then, so are probably many NFL teams. Yet they’ll be a familiar face running the show.

Ken Anderson, who quarterbacked the Bengals and coached their quarterbacks for a total of 26 seasons, has tutored Pryor for his NFL Pro Day and still has an easy and friendly relationship with Bengals president Mike Brown.

Jim Tressel, Pryor’s coach and another Brown favorite, spent Thursday watching the final Bengals practice of training camp, where he chatted with Brown and head coach Marvin Lewis. It would be hard to believe the subject of Pryor didn’t come up.

This one is hard to gauge.

Brown loves quarterbacks and Ohio State players and how about two for the price of one? But the Bengals also covet draft picks. The one time they used the supplemental draft came in 2006 when they had a sudden, immediate need at middle linebacker because of the Odell Thurman suspension. Thus, Ahmad Brooks arrived via the third round and Bengals fans can still see Brooks this season. They’ll just have to wait when he comes with the 49ers for the home opener Sept. 25.

They’ve already got a rookie quarterback in Andy Dalton and what would Pryor’s arrival do to his psyche and development? But if it’s one thing that catches the eye of Lewis it is an offensive player’s sheer speed and athleticism. The things that keep defensive coordinators up nights because you can’t defend them. That would be intriguing around these parts, where the closest the Bengals have ever come to the Wildcat is Carson Palmer’s sit-down strike.

The down side besides the potential impact on Dalton?

Pryor is clearly a long way away from being a factor as an NFL quarterback, so how do you make him your No. 3? If you do, you’d have to design a package just for him, and the Bengals obviously already have their hands full learning the new offense since they emerged with just a field goal in the opener.

No doubt Pryor’s five-game suspension to start his career is a downer. Plus, the Bengals are already bracing for possible discipline on running back Cedric Benson and cornerback Adam Jones, which can also bring fines to the club.

There’s enough to chew on and debate and who knows how it goes down?

But one thing we do know…

They’ll have plenty of info.

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13 Responses to “Plenty of info on Pryor”

  1. By mwindle1973 on Aug 20, 2011 | Reply

    I think you forgot another thing that Brown has a penchant for….bargains! He has always been drawn to the the 1st round guy that falls to the 2nd round. So if the price is right, say maybe that exra 5th rounder we have, or a 6th rounder, for a QB that probably would’ve been drafted in round 3 or 4 in April, isn’t bad business. But it also depends on whether he is a fit to the system and if they like the info that they receive from Anderson. Let’s also consider that Jon Gruden spent an hour or two with him for his QB show. Now you can’t trust what Gruden says on ESPN, but I bet he has a definite opinon on Pryor and it has already made it’s way to the other Gruden. The only other team that has so much inside info on Pryor is Cleveland, and they have it because of Tressel and Gruden. But Anderson is the one who has been working him out for the last few months, so that gives us a leg up. Who knows, it could be a good move to make, it could be a good move to avoid.

  2. By Amarillo Slim on Aug 20, 2011 | Reply

    Five-game suspension is a downer? This guy will not be ready to play in thre NFL for a LONG time. The only way he’ll be ready to contribute in 2011/12 is as clipboard holder, memorabillia broker, and perhaps new car broker.

  3. By 2ndboot on Aug 20, 2011 | Reply

    Well this is an interesting kettle of fish now isn’t it? 5 QBs in the camp? Someone would have the axe fall in him if not two guys and I doubt Dalton is going anywhere nor is Gratkowski for the time being..
    How close would Pryor be to starting if injuries plagued both Dalton and Grat? OR if Dalton doesn’t pan out?
    One thing is for certain they seem to be building for the future with all the youngsters around..
    Perhaps the Palmer rumors are correct and perhaps not.. The rumor mill will certainly be busy either way..

  4. By mwindle1973 on Aug 20, 2011 | Reply

    Pryor measured 6’5″ 232 at his Pro Day. He ran a 4.38 40 on soft turf! I just can’t say how fast that is. Probably in the 4.25-4.30 under NFL combine conditions. No exagerration here, he is undoubtedly the fastest man of his size to ever try and enter the NFL. You do get guys this fast, a few every year. But they are all usually 6′ or under and under 200 lbs. That’s why coaches freak out over guys like Ocho and AJ Green, that are tall, over 200 lbs, and can still run in the 4.4 range. Basically he’s as fast as Mike Vick, but he has 5 inches and 20 lbs on him. Word is his passing wasn’t as impressive. His throwing was good. Crisp, powerful, tight spirals. Technique and footwork wasn’t bad. But a lot more balls hit the ground than you would expect in a pre-orchestrated workout. 17 teams had a rep at the game. So if we put a bid on him the only team in attendance higher on the draft order than us was the Bills. And Chan Gailey likes mobile QBs.

  5. By mwindle1973 on Aug 21, 2011 | Reply

    OK I get it. Everyone thinks that Pryor deserves the 5 game suspension. And I agree in a perfect world it seems to fit the crime. But in a perfect world atheletes like Pryor would get remimbursed from their schools for the million they generate. And the argument that a 50K education from OSU is enough pay doesn’t hold water either. But here’s why everyone should be calling for Goodell’s head. Pryor is not in the NFL! How can he be punished for something he did before joining the NFL? Either he’s eligible for the supplemental draft or not. But they have no right to suspend him. Where does it stop?

  6. By mwindle1973 on Aug 21, 2011 | Reply

    Like the article ‘Gym Rat’ Hobs! Good little portion in there on Dhani Jones. I’ll miss Dhani. He wasn’t the best player on our D, but he was the smartest and he was our leader. In an NFL filled with media stunts to gain popularity. It’s refreshing to see a player garner attention from his actual personality & intelligence. Dhani lacked some skills as a player, but let’s never forget he was the leader of the #4 D in ’09.

  7. By mwindle1973 on Aug 21, 2011 | Reply

    Well it’s almost time to dip the measuring stick again and see what we got. I’m not hoping for much, still think with this particular roster and the short amount of prep time we aren’t going to look together. Hopefully by game 1 we can be there. I’m mainly just looking to see individual performances get more solid, like the blocking and coverage and tackling. Oh yeah and the not fumbling or not throwing ints. If we see that kind of stuff even if it doesn’t come together smoothly then we are headed in the right direction. We’ll see!

  8. By mwindle1973 on Aug 22, 2011 | Reply

    I’m completely impressed with Boling, he should easily be the first backup at LG & RG. I think it’s possible he’ll be our #2 C as well. Because he seemed to outplay Stephens. Chase Coffman is starting to fall behind to Cochart in the TE battle. Livings really turned things around, and Cook did too. Smith continues to give the impression we now have bookends again. For the first time I see what they are talking about in Dalton. Once he got it together, I seen some good things. He’s one of the smartest preseason rookie QBs I’ve seen. It’s just a matter of continuing to improve his execution. AJ, Simpson were off, Caldwell was too, but had a couple reall good plays. Shipley was great. This offense should open up a lot when B Scott & Gresham are back. I’ve seen enough LeFevour. I can’t see him beating out Jordan. Gradkowski did not look as good as last week, but produced a nice big play. Where is Quan Cosby at WR. Is he not going to play from scrimmage anymore? The D seems to be progressing quite well. There’s going to be some tough decisions on cutdown day. Vincent Rey, Jeromy Miles, Rico Murray, Jason Shirley, Clinton McDonald, DeQuin Evans have all played at a higher level than expected.

  9. By mwindle1973 on Aug 22, 2011 | Reply

    I thought a 5th round pick would get Pryor when this all began. Then after the workout I suspected maybe a couple or so team might put in a 4th round bid. And I thought if someone became really convinced they had to have this atheltic specimen then they might put up a 3rd rounder to be positive they got him. But I thought to myself, while I wish we get him, who in their right mind would say this guy is a must have? Welp, I forgot Al Davis was still in the NFL! I’d be interested to know what teams bid, and what the bids were. But I don’t think they release that info. I thought we should’ve put a 5th rounder on him for sure. And if we put a 4th I would’ve still called it a good move. But a 3rd rounder? No way! That’s just crazy. Because all you were getting was a project and an elite athelte. By most accounts though it’s impossible to tell what kind of project. A project where? QB? WR? KR/PR?. Mike Lombardi, a former NFL executive, even suggested he could end up being a FS. If he can’t QB, and he doesn’t pan out at WR, that he seen FS as the next logical position for him.

  10. By jamison007 on Aug 22, 2011 | Reply

    Yo’ Bengals, where is your edge? Got any pride? Coach Lew, can you stop being so nice?! Does anybody want to win? Yes, the first couple games in pre-season you don’t want anyone making extra-ordinary effort that risks injury…but enough is enough, I have seen this too many years in a row now. I think our team needs to know that you need to make that extra “pro” effort burst, power or cut in preseason so that you know you can do it and do it at will…otherwise, as has been our case sooo many times, we just sleep walk into the season and then when all the other teams notch it up to the next level, we get walloped. Get it together, please! As a fan, I want our team to know that ESPN and all the others completely and ridiculously write this team OFF. Doesn’t this tick anyone else OFF and much as me? Anybody!??? Who Dey??? Stay healthy guys, but lets make sure we know how to put it in that ‘dominate’ gear…now that the first two are behind us, if ew don’t start playing for real, we won’t get that feel on day 1.

  11. By mwindle1973 on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Thoughts out to Antwan Odom and his family. He was shot in the thigh with a shotgun, when someone invaded his home while he slept Sunday night. Apparantely a childhood friend was the perpetrator. His intent was to burglarize the home. But he first entered Odom’s bedroom and fired two shots one of which hit Odom. The two then wrestled for the shotgun, with the perpetrator fleeing leaving the gun at the scene. Too bad for Odom. That guy literally has the most terrible luck. It still makes me cringe that Emperor Goodell suspended him for accidentally taking diet pills, when he was 20 lbs under playing weight from inactivity due to surgery.

  12. By mwindle1973 on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    Too bad about Anderson. Perhaps part of the problem that’s never stated is after our poor performance through the 90’s, the media decided that we sold more press when we portrayed as a joke. Our triumphs of the distant past are living completely in the shadow of our not so distant past failures. It’s not just Kenny that’s being underestimated here. This is a storied franchise with a rich history. A lot of teams would love to be able to point back to the 70’s and 80’s and say they had Paul Brown, Bill Walsh, Dick LeBeau, the original WCO, the original zone-blitz, the original no-huddle offense, Forrest Gregg, Anderson, Boomer, Curtis, Riley (should be in the HOF too). We were a very respected team until Paul Brown died. Yet the franchise does not choose to taut that history in face of such public ridicule over the current status of the franchise. This fact does not help players like Riley & Anderson. IMO the franchise should do more to promote knowledge of the franchise history. There is only one Paul Brown and he will always be ours! But most of all, winning will fix everything. If we strung together some winning seasons, that would be the best publicity for Anderson’s plight.

  13. By mwindle1973 on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    Weird with the TV tape delay thing. I’m technically in the Dayton market, but I get both Dayton & Columbus local stations. It will be a game time until I find out if I get to watch it then or at 11. Because even though it’s on my tv to be showed on columbus channel 6 @ 7pm, sometimes in past preseasons it will not show game, running regular programming instead. Sometimes it does run the game like it says. During the regular season I see the game no matter what. Like when we play Cleveland and didn’t sell out last year. I was able to see it on the Columbus station because it is part of the Browns TV market too. So hopefully it will be on 11.

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