AP All-Pro team: Geno anchors D-line

Posted by hobsonschoice1 on January 12, 2013 – 11:01 am


If the Bengals were going to have one All-Pro, it would be defensive tackle Geno Atkins and that’s what happened Saturday when the Associated Press released its All-Pro team and Atkins grabbed 42 of the 50 votes. Atkins, who led the Bengals and all NFL defensive tackles with 12.5 sacks, was the only Bengal to make it in voting by the 50-member national panel.  Atkins joins wide receiver A.J. Green and tight end Jermaine Gresham in the Cincinnati contingent headed to the Pro Bowl later this month.

The AP All-Pros via

QB:  Peyton Manning, Broncos

RB:  Adrian Peterson, Vikings (unanimous); Marshawn Lynch, Seahawks

FB:  Vonta Leach, Ravens

WR:  Calvin Johnson, Lions; Brandon Marshall, Bears

TE:  Tony Gonzalez, Falcons

T:  Duane Brown, Texans; Ryan Clady, Broncos

G:  Jahri Evans, Saints; Mike Iupati, 49ers

C:  Max Unger, Seahawks

DE:  J.J. Watt, Texans (unanimous); Cameron Wake, Dolphins

DT:  Geno Atkins, Bengals; Vince Wilfork, Patriots

OLB:  Von Miller, Broncos; Aldon Smith, 49ers

ILB:  Patrick Willis, San Francisco; NaVorro Bowman, San Francisco

CB:  Richard Sherman, Seahawks; Charles Tillman, Bears

S:  Earl Thomas, Seahawks; Dashon Goldson, 49ers

P:  Andy Lee, 49ers

K:  Blair Walsh, Seahawks

KR:  Jacoby Jones, Ravens

Should any other Bengal be in the discussion on that list? Certainly you could talk about Green instead of Marshall and Kevin Huber at punter. Green made the second team with 16.5  votes, (6.5 behind Marshall in third place ) but Lee (24 votes) and New Orleans’s Thomas Morstead (18) finished 1-2. And if Brown and Clady are on the list then left tackle Andrew Whitworth has to be in the debate. One thing about the Texans and Broncos: Each team allowed the Bengals no sacks.

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3 Responses to “AP All-Pro team: Geno anchors D-line”

  1. By mwindle1973 on Jan 13, 2013 | Reply

    @Hobson: In your article where you hand out the Marvin’s, you called Tim Krumrie the greatest DT in Bengals history. While being the most well known, I beg to differ. If Geno’s numbers are to be compared to anyone, let’s compare him to Mike Reid who was a 3 tech DT also. Now I know that sacks weren’t an official stat, but we do know that Paul Brown started recording them to grade players in the 1940’s, so according to the team Reid recorded 49 sacks in his 5 year career (1970-74). In order he recorded 5, 12, 12, 13 & 7 sacks. He recorded 29 in his first 48 games vs Geno’s 23. And through 64 games he recorded 42. That 3 season span of 37 probably ranks amongst the best ever by a DT. Let’s keep in mind he didn’t have the talent around him on the Dline like Atkins does. To put it in perspective he did what Geno did this year for 3 straight years, and was on his was to a 4th until he tore his knee and hand up. To me he is the standard bearer for Dlineman for any Bengal. Krumrie was a good and popular player, not great. The only comparable 5 year run by a DLine is Eddie Edwards, 36 sacks, 1977-1981. And the reason I bring up all of Reids non-athletic accomplishment is it certainly points to him being one of the most interesting Bengals ever. There is plenty of tape that exists from Reid’s playing days, from NFL Game of the Week(s) alone. Check them out if you haven’t seen them! The guy was every bit as good as the 49 sacks in 5 seasons, by a DT would indicate.

  2. By mwindle1973 on Jan 13, 2013 | Reply

    @Hobson…Agreed…how does Green not get All-Pro? Huber? Whit, I’m so used to him being overlooked I just accept it. At this point he may be more under-rated than Willie Anderson considering Anderson was All-Pro & made the Pro Bowl 4 times each. But he had to wait until his 8th season. Whit should probably have 2 or 3 of each at this point. What about Andre Smith? Pro Football Focus had him graded the #1 ROT for the season. By a pretty good margin. I don’t know of any other teams that leave their ROT on an island just like they do the LOT. Sure some teams do it a lot, but we do it 99% of the time, no matter the opponent. He had the one game where he had trouble against Philly. But I really think it had more to do with him not getting off the snap because of the noise than anything. Playing in Cincy is not going to help you get any accolades…Ken Anderson is proof of that.

  3. By mwindle1973 on Jan 15, 2013 | Reply

    We have 25 players that are free agents, going to be some tough decisions to make. Definitely some guys we have to get back. Pro Football Focus has a nice list of all the free agents and there season grade. The guys who graded best of our free agents, in order, with the highest first, were Andre Smith, Kevin Huber, Mike Nuggent, Michael Johnson, Adam Jones, Terrence Newman, Josh Brown, Wallace Gilberry & Thomas Howard. This group seem like a no-brainer. They all gets raises, you let Nuggent walk and sign Brown to help fund the raises. The guys who graded lowest, in order, with the lowest first were Rey Maualuga, Robert Geathers, Manny Lawson, Dan Skuta, Jeromy Miles, Nate Clements & Brian Leonard. 2 of these guys stick out for the amount of salary cap space they clear. Robert Geathers (6.2M in 2012) & Nate Clements (5.5M in 2012). They will not be given offers or offered somewhere in the 1M dollar a year range as they are going to be backups next year. It would seem the money from Geathers, Clements & Nuggent could be used to lock up Smith & Johnson. The rest of the group at best aren’t going to get a raise. The last group of guys scored average, from +2 to -2. From first to last, Chris Crocker, Bernard Scott, Brandon Tate, Dennis Roland, Bruce Gradkowski & Pat Sims. Most of these guys we’ll probably want to keep, and they will likely get similar salaries to what they already had. The last 2 guys are Richard Quinn, who I believe was never active. And then Clark Harris, who I imagine would be re-signed. According to John Clayton of ESPN we have 8.5M in carry over, with a total cap space of 55.1M right now.

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