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Posted by hobsonschoice1 on June 1, 2010 – 2:24 pm

Just going through some posts and a couple jumped out at me.

One was from The Boot about how there has been outside negativity about Cincinnati sports dating back to the old days of the Reds and this: “Do any of you out there have even the slightest bit of respect for the Yankees? I didn’t think so and those who do, in the words of WC Fields.. Go away..You bother me.

BOOT: As a guy who still vomits when he sees Johnny Bench’s opposite field double into the corner off Bill Lee to open the top of the ninth of Game Two in ’75, I have to disagree.

At least in my world the Reds were always highly-regarded. They were the epitome of class, execution, organization. Cold, hard killers. Professional assassins. They were the Dodgers for that generation of the late ’60s, all the ’70s, and a sliver of the ’80s.

I think they took a huge hit in that department during the Schott era, but it is coming back.  Slowly. Hard to miss with a guy like Jocketty.

As for the Yankees, sorry to bother you.

They turn my stomach, but I’ve got a lot of respect for Jeter, Rivera, Posada. True professionals that I enjoy watching play the game even if they kill me. Just like Roy White, Chris Chambliss, and Ron Guidry back in the day.

Of course, I couldn’t stand the rest. And watching this current crop handle itself, led by the juvenile A-Rod, a guy that will never learn how to act on the field, it is like watching a bunch of Knothole kids when they win.

But I do respect the Big Three and the team as a whole. I respect doctors, too, but I hate going to them.

TEPID:  Your post about Robert Geathers’ declining stats was the inspiration for my Sunday column about the dangers of getting married to individual stats when it comes to football. It is why you are putting Geathers and Andre Caldwell on the bubble.

Then I saw your follow-up with this line: “Individual stats when totaled define a good offense and defense; they are not meaningless.”

But in the years you have Geathers declining, the total defensive rank has risen from 27 to 12 to 4 in the NFL:  Individual stats are meaningless when not put in the context of scheme and personnel.

The stats don’t tell you that last year Geathers was coming off microfracture knee surgery, a major procedure. And they don’t tell you because of the injuries to Peko and Odom, he rarely came off the field. His teammates have so much respect for him because they knew he was hurting and yet he took every snap he could because there was no one else.

The stats also don’t tell you that he’s played a slew of different positions and played different roles over the past three seasons. He started at SAM backer for a month in 2007. He’s played both ends, he’s played inside, he’s played a little nose tackle. His versatility allows them use some 3-4 principles out of a 4-3 base.

And the stats don’t tell you what a stolid, silent leader he’s been. He arrived at age 20, is going into his seventh season, and gives them stability to go along with his versatility.

Yeah, you wish he’d had some more sacks after those 10.5 in ’06. But he’s also in a different role. Back then he was coming off the bench on third down. Now he’s always on the field.  I’m sure Marvin would like more tackles from him, but he gladly took his leadership and toughness last year. To me, Geathers is   the type of player that shows numbers can’t always compute to football production.

Geathers is simply a good, tough, solid player that does a lot of things well. No way is he a bubble guy.

You’ve got a point with Caldwell. He makes the team, but he’ll have his hands full.

Again, I wouldn’t get too wrapped up in your stats. What were they in the first half of the season when he had a vertical threat on the field in Chris Henry? And you can’t compare Caldwell to Houshmandzadeh. It was a different pass offense with different personnel. Housh had Henry, Caldwell had Laveranues Coles. Enough said.

Got a stat for game-winning TDs in last 22 seconds against division foes?

I think he’s going to be OK, but, yeah, he’s going to have to grind it with some other guys to make it. At the very least he’s got to prove he can hold on to the ball.


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